Since the questions on "first version" did not produce debate, we had changed them and put them in this same page under the name "second version". Please, start there the debate.
José Otaviano Isabella Melano Marcela de Oliveira Bárbara Stéfany Rosana Soares Carolina Rocha Bruna Luiza Thais El Malih
QUESTIONS:
1) The internet expansion allows many people to express their opinion, unlike few years ago, when information was very restricted. However, the quality of the information might be questionable. What is you position about the easiness of information transmission nowadays? -I believe that it is the role of educators to teach the new generations on how to critically acess the internet. With a good judgement, the richness of information in the internet can only help in the pursuit of knowledge. However, it is true that often good sources get lost amidst a sea of misinformation - but a good internet researcher can get around this and find reliable sources.
- In my opinion, although the internet give us the possibility to access all kind of informations we have to analyze each information in way to see if they are real. So I agree with José, we need a criticall acess to the internet. We need to learn how search information on the internet.
2) In your opinion, what makes a source reliable? - What makes a souce reliable, that is in fact a really good quastion. If you think about the research resources we have nowadays, it is quite difficult to figure out which source is reliable or not, specially if you think about the internet. When it comes to websites that are built collaboratively, such as wikipedia, the information is not always trustworthy. Therefore, when it comes to reliable information we should "preffer" official sources, researches that are developed by known istitutions, or newspapapers and maggazzine articles, those are in may opinion reliable sources, and most of them you can also find in the internet.
- In my opinion, what makes sources reliable is their bases, that is, where they come from, who developed them, where they were found, and also, if possible, the statistical treatment they went through.
3) What is your opinion about the use or not of wikipedia? Do you think it is trusthworthy enough to be used in the academy? - I think Wikipedia can be pretty useful when you are in search of quick and short pieces of information. When conducting a major research, mainly in academy, I do not think it is advisable to trust information that people can freely manipulate. It is not that Wikipedia is always wrong, but there are other more reliable sources.
I totally agree with Marcela, Wikipedia is a nice source to get a brief idea of any subject. The information provided can help us to start the comprehension of something that, then, we can be more able to keep on searching about doubt or interest. Sometimes it is difficult to start searching about some contents and, even if we can not stop trying to check the information relevance, it is a way to begin with the idea.
I really agree with Marcela and Rosana, Wikipedia can be used to get information since you check all of them in others reliable websites mainly when you are searching for a academic work.
In my opinion, wikipedia is a good tool to start a research. Although it brings a lot of information, not everyone of them can be trusted. Wikipedia offers some other sites that can have more accurate and trustable information about the topic that is being searched. It can be good as a base, but other sources have to be checked.
4) The last metaphor about how to use sources to make meaning is "eat". The phrase "you are what you eat" can briefly explain that what you learn stays with you. In your opinion, can this new knowledge influence your life? How? Yes. The new knowledge will change the way we see the things and will improve your own ideas. With a good work, an essay for instance, with a very good research and really understanding the topic that you choose you will be able to discuss with other people in the future.
Yes, it can. When we realize that everything we learn stays with us and the sum of knowledge we have is actually a great portion of what builds our opinions and beliefs, we start paying better attention in the learning process itself. Keeping that in mind, we try to achieve information in a more committed, selective and critical way, because that knowledge may be used in the future when talking to other people or it may help you build your arguments about something else.
5) Can you think about other methapors to describe the process of using sources?
FIRST VERSION: QUESTIONS FOR THE ONLINE DEBATE
Answers by colour:
Larissa Monteiro
Thais El Malih
1)What do we mean with the term "sources of meaning"?
According to the article, sources have to be considered more generally as “forms of meaning you use to make new meaning”. A source provides information and knowledge that a person processes to produce new meaning, which other people can then use to make their own meaning.
Sources of meaning '' are literally everywhere", it can be our own experiences and observations, as well as written texts and the content of one's brain. Those allow us to make new meanings out of old sources. Because it can be anything, it can be expressed and exposed in several different ways, such as oral presentations and painted pictures.
2)Is internet a completely trustful source of infiormation? Why?
No. Although you can find lots of sources on the Internet, there are good and bad information. A bigger problem with Internet search engines, though, is that they won’t necessarily lead you to the sources considered most valuable for college writing.
No. Even though the Internet has cut down on the amount of physical effort in order to find sources,it can present inumerous results that if not filtered can lead the searcher to a wrong path
3) Excluding internet, list at least 3 other sources mentioned in the article.
College library’s bibliographic databases, books, magazines.
Before the Internet, to have access to some information it was necessary to call or write to request a copy to wherever the information was stored. Another source were the libraries and also articles in scholarly journals.
4)what is a "source adress"?
It’s directions for finding the source: the name of the author; the title of the book or article or website; and other information such
as date, location of publication, publisher, even the database in which a source is located.
5) Why is impostant to "talk" with sources?
It helps to know who the authors are. What they’re saying. Where, when, and to whom they’re saying it. And what their purposes are.
6)it is always necessary to paraphrase your sources' ideas?
Not always.
7) What can you do if you do not know the "ingredients" of your "recipe"?
You can talk to your professor and aks for help.
8) Explain why "you are what you eat".
That is because "when you eat sources — that is, think about things, experiment, read, write, talk to others — you yourself change. What you learn stays with you."
9) Explain, briefly, the meaning of the 4 metaphors "walk, talk, cook, eat".
Walk (find the sources you need): in order to use sources well, you first have to go where they are. You have to get to the sources you need.
Talk (converse with source authors): this way you will understand a lot of things related to the text
Cook (integrate sources to make new meaning): when youcook with sources, you process them in new ways.
Eat(allow sources to change your life): related to memory
SECOND VERSION: QUESTIONS FOR THE ONLINE DEBATE
( Slides available on http://www.slideshare.net/walktalkcookeat_2012_1/walktalkcookeat-1 )
- Answers by color:
José OtavianoIsabella Melano
Marcela de Oliveira
Bárbara Stéfany
Rosana Soares
Carolina Rocha
Bruna Luiza
Thais El Malih
1) The internet expansion allows many people to express their opinion, unlike few years ago, when information was very restricted. However, the quality of the information might be questionable. What is you position about the easiness of information transmission nowadays?
-I believe that it is the role of educators to teach the new generations on how to critically acess the internet. With a good judgement, the richness of information in the internet can only help in the pursuit of knowledge. However, it is true that often good sources get lost amidst a sea of misinformation - but a good internet researcher can get around this and find reliable sources.
- In my opinion, although the internet give us the possibility to access all kind of informations we have to analyze each information in way to see if they are real. So I agree with José, we need a criticall acess to the internet. We need to learn how search information on the internet.
2) In your opinion, what makes a source reliable?
- What makes a souce reliable, that is in fact a really good quastion. If you think about the research resources we have nowadays, it is quite difficult to figure out which source is reliable or not, specially if you think about the internet. When it comes to websites that are built collaboratively, such as wikipedia, the information is not always trustworthy. Therefore, when it comes to reliable information we should "preffer" official sources, researches that are developed by known istitutions, or newspapapers and maggazzine articles, those are in may opinion reliable sources, and most of them you can also find in the internet.
- In my opinion, what makes sources reliable is their bases, that is, where they come from, who developed them, where they were found, and also, if possible, the statistical treatment they went through.
3) What is your opinion about the use or not of wikipedia? Do you think it is trusthworthy enough to be used in the academy?
- I think Wikipedia can be pretty useful when you are in search of quick and short pieces of information. When conducting a major research, mainly in academy, I do not think it is advisable to trust information that people can freely manipulate. It is not that Wikipedia is always wrong, but there are other more reliable sources.
I totally agree with Marcela, Wikipedia is a nice source to get a brief idea of any subject. The information provided can help us to start the comprehension of something that, then, we can be more able to keep on searching about doubt or interest. Sometimes it is difficult to start searching about some contents and, even if we can not stop trying to check the information relevance, it is a way to begin with the idea.
I really agree with Marcela and Rosana, Wikipedia can be used to get information since you check all of them in others reliable websites mainly when you are searching for a academic work.
In my opinion, wikipedia is a good tool to start a research. Although it brings a lot of information, not everyone of them can be trusted. Wikipedia offers some other sites that can have more accurate and trustable information about the topic that is being searched. It can be good as a base, but other sources have to be checked.
4) The last metaphor about how to use sources to make meaning is "eat". The phrase "you are what you eat" can briefly explain that what you learn stays with you. In your opinion, can this new knowledge influence your life? How?
Yes. The new knowledge will change the way we see the things and will improve your own ideas. With a good work, an essay for instance, with a very good research and really understanding the topic that you choose you will be able to discuss with other people in the future.
Yes, it can. When we realize that everything we learn stays with us and the sum of knowledge we have is actually a great portion of what builds our opinions and beliefs, we start paying better attention in the learning process itself. Keeping that in mind, we try to achieve information in a more committed, selective and critical way, because that knowledge may be used in the future when talking to other people or it may help you build your arguments about something else.
5) Can you think about other methapors to describe the process of using sources?
FIRST VERSION: QUESTIONS FOR THE ONLINE DEBATE
Answers by colour:
Larissa Monteiro
Thais El Malih
1)What do we mean with the term "sources of meaning"?
According to the article, sources have to be considered more generally as “forms of meaning you use to make new meaning”. A source provides information and knowledge that a person processes to produce new meaning, which other people can then use to make their own meaning.
Sources of meaning '' are literally everywhere", it can be our own experiences and observations, as well as written texts and the content of one's brain. Those allow us to make new meanings out of old sources. Because it can be anything, it can be expressed and exposed in several different ways, such as oral presentations and painted pictures.
2)Is internet a completely trustful source of infiormation? Why?
No. Although you can find lots of sources on the Internet, there are good and bad information. A bigger problem with Internet search engines, though, is that they won’t necessarily lead you to the sources considered most valuable for college writing.
No. Even though the Internet has cut down on the amount of physical effort in order to find sources,it can present inumerous results that if not filtered can lead the searcher to a wrong path
3) Excluding internet, list at least 3 other sources mentioned in the article.
College library’s bibliographic databases, books, magazines.
Before the Internet, to have access to some information it was necessary to call or write to request a copy to wherever the information was stored. Another source were the libraries and also articles in scholarly journals.
4)what is a "source adress"?
It’s directions for finding the source: the name of the author; the title of the book or article or website; and other information such
as date, location of publication, publisher, even the database in which a source is located.
5) Why is impostant to "talk" with sources?
It helps to know who the authors are. What they’re saying. Where, when, and to whom they’re saying it. And what their purposes are.
6)it is always necessary to paraphrase your sources' ideas?
Not always.
7) What can you do if you do not know the "ingredients" of your "recipe"?
You can talk to your professor and aks for help.
8) Explain why "you are what you eat".
That is because "when you eat sources — that is, think about things, experiment, read, write, talk to others — you yourself change. What you learn stays with you."
9) Explain, briefly, the meaning of the 4 metaphors "walk, talk, cook, eat".